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Apparently, I wasn't the only one a bit confused. Almost immediately, my journalist listserv jumped to life. "Can a transgender person have his or her birth certificate changed after transitioning?" "Should he have kept it a private matter, if only because of the potential backlash?" Finally, a colleague from southern California seemed to sum up most of our thinking: "A pregnant man. It really does ... screw with your head—and with some people's political ideology, about that there can be no dispute. Because men don't get pregnant, of course."
Men don't get pregnant, right? Let me double-check that, stat.
Over the years I've spoken publicly—in my former role as president of the National Lesbian & Gay Journalists Association—about transgender nomenclature and issues as well as the difference between sexuality (male vs. female) and gender identity (masculine vs. feminine). Without doubt, I have found even educated groups (if you care to refer to journalists that way) somewhat confounded over the language: "male-to-female," "female-to-male," "transvestite," "transsexual," "transgender" and "intersex." More than ever in these discussions, language is crucial, and I know many of my colleagues worry about using the wrong word choice for fear of being pegged ignorant or, even worse, prejudiced. Just last week, a longtime leader in LGBT rights issues said to me from San Francisco in reference to Beatie: "I completely get the transgender thing, but this ... ?"
He's not alone. Frankly, it's taken many in the gay and lesbian community a long time to accept the "T" in our LGBT acronym. To be certain, there was a time when all this was new and uncomfortable for me. I thought back to my parents' generation, many of whom had had difficulty accepting their gay and lesbian family members and friends. Why? I'd say largely because of the shock of the new ("I don't know any gay people!") and our basic, almost genetic predisposition against anything different in the family of man ("difference = bad").
In 2002, I recall being approached by the first transgender person (male-to-female, Ira to Ina) I had come to know at an NLGJA convention. The topics she proffered: the importance of transgender-friendly bathrooms and the bias in transgender news coverage. Not surprisingly, our conference hotel had only "mens" and "womens" restrooms, and Ina explained to me how uncomfortable that made some of our transgender members, but how even more uncomfortable it made some of our non-transgender conventioneers. The answer? Gender-neutral restrooms or transgender-friendly ones. Mind you, this is easier said than done in a major hotel. But until that discussion, I can tell you I had never thought one second about the "restroom issue."
As for news coverage, Ina explained to me that most media outlets at that time still had no consistency in how they applied pronouns to transgender people, often identifying individuals by their gender of birth—not gender appearance or expression. Now, most newspapers have adopted a policy to use a transgender person's chosen name and pronoun. For instance, the San Jose Mercury News, after repeatedly failing in how it identified transgender individuals in the much-publicized murder of Gwen Araujo, adopted this much more fair and accurate policy:
We encourage you to ask transgender people which pronoun they would like you to use. If it is not possible to ask the person which pronoun he or she prefers, use the pronoun that is consistent with the person's appearance and gender expression. Also, please do not put quotation marks around gender pronouns, suggesting that the pronoun does not reflect the person's true sex.
If you think this is a case of "special" treatment, think again. We in the media often use the chosen names of celebrities as both a measure of respect and clarity rather than insisting on using their birth name. (For instance, Muhammad Ali is no longer referred to by his birth name, Cassius Clay; similarly, we all know the former Cherilyn Sarkisian as the one-syllable diva: Cher.)
But for all the change that has occurred, some members of the media, in what might aptly be called "the Beatie affair," have crossed the line in voicing their fear and loathing of the Beatie pregnancy. David Letterman referred to him as an "androgynous freak show" on his Top Ten list, while the hosts of MSNBC's Morning Joe vied for the title of most objectionable. Castigating Oprah for "legitimizing this" (the Big O had Beatie on for what is generally considered a thoughtful and respectful segment), Joe Scarborough, one of the anchors, would not even watch the "O" video: "I'm not gonna look at this. Tell me when it's over. We don't want the facts. I can't handle the facts." His co-anchor, the usually fair and balanced Mika Brezezinksi, added to the outrage: "I'm gonna be sick. I'm gonna be sick. I am upset. That was not only stupid and useless, but quite frankly, disgusting."
Many in the LGBT community have wondered whether the transgender community will see "some backlash" from the Beatie story and whether it will hinder the movement toward greater social acceptance of transgender individuals. When you have Letterman saying someone is a "freak show," you've got a bit of a problem. This reminds me, though, of another so-called problem. In the late 1980s and early 1990s, as gays and lesbians sought greater visibility and acceptance, more conservative members of our "community" (which I put in quotation marks here because there was a decided lack of community in their views) argued vociferously that leather men, drag queens, porn stars and transvestites should go to the back of the lavender bus because they were not good PR vehicles for the gay rights movement. In short, we were urged to put our "best" faces forward: The Brooks Brother Homosexual.
Hunter Madsen (along with the late Marshall Kirk, both tidy young men, then) wrote the seminal treatise on this: After the Ball: How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the '90s. They argued against shock tactics—like PDAs in the street—and in favor of a Madison Avenue-like public relations campaign that aimed to make gays more mediagenic (think Will & Grace). Looking back over the nearly two decades since their book was published, we can easily see that acceptance of gays and lesbians has been helped by our mainstream brothers and sisters: Ellen DeGeneres (TV superstar), Armistead Maupin (Tales of the City) and Greg Louganis (Olympian) as examples. Yet, don't mistake the power of our more outrĂ© companions in shaping the culture, in pushing the culture: the "divine" filmmaker John Waters; NPR's most famous "lisper," David Sedaris; and the androgynous chanteuse k.d. lang. Madsen and Kirk would likely have chosen to obfuscate this latter trio of LGBT heroes in their PR campaign for gay acceptance—and what a sadder, more narrow world that would have been for everyone. Similarly, Beatie might not be the poster child for transgender acceptance that some would like. Too bad, I say. He's one among many, and if we know anything from recent history, it's the importance of each of us standing up to be visible, recognized and accepted for who we are.
Here's the kicker: The Beaties are a mind-bender. No, they're not "just a husband and wife who are having a baby," as Nancy Beatie has claimed. They've pushed our buttons and our boundaries about sexuality and gender identity because we're so used to thinking in binary terms: man/ woman, masculine/ feminine and gay/ straight. The world's more complicated than that, as Thomas Beatie is certainly showing us.
One of my journalist colleagues wrote about all this recently: "The best way I've learned to describe the transgender community is on a spectrum. Many young transgender people do not consider the dichotomy of gender to be a useful model ... [But] as we all know, there are plenty of times when we are forced to declare ourselves as male or female. Our society doesn't understand that gender can be more fluid."
So, yes, Virginia, men do get pregnant.
Steven Petrow is the past president of the National Lesbian & Gay Journalists Association and is at work on his memoir, Out of the Box.
Source: The Triangle Independent http://www.indyweek.com/gyrobase/PrintFriendly?oid=oid%3A257157For anyone who skipped reading the article and just wanted to listen to my take on the issue, I will clarify the issue herein. Beatie is a transgendered individual who is legally recognized as a man by the state of Oregon. He is married to a woman and for all social intents and purposes is recognized as a man. However, he (obviously) still has biologically female sexual organs--this presumably being the only way one can give birth (at this point). Anyway, the point of this is simply to point out a very complex issue in sexual, gender, and identity politics. It is interesting (and important) to consider on both political and philosophical-psychological grounds. In the former, it is important because currently rights for transgendered persons are essentially non-existent; in the latter, we could all probably do with a little reflection (whatever the eventual outcome) on what it means to be a man or a woman and what it means to self-identify as one or the other (these might be different things after all) and how these roles are constructed (biological, social, etc).
It is an odd issue, and I can't say I am 100% comfortable with the transgendered persons I know. It's not at all that I don't respect them, I am just not ever quite sure about how they want to be perceived...I am also intensely curious about it. But I always assume asking about it is kind of rude.
Oh, and Scarborough and his buddy are ass-licks. MSNBC should be ashamed of both anchors and should issue a public apology. Of course, media persons have every right to be objectionable, juvenile douchebags, but come on. News program my ass. This is a serious issue, and acting like a bunch of uncomfortable 7th graders degrades the issue and the media itself.
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This is an odd topic, but an important one in this post-modern world. There is one thing I would like to throw in here. Congress is passing a genetic nondiscrimination law soon, it should be going into effect in about 18 months or so. The law prohibits employers and medical insurance from discriminating against someone on a genetic basis (it may well be the first proactive anti-discrimination law in history). The downside is, as I understand it, the law does not specifically include life insurance or the military or a few other things. I bring up this law because it directly could impact transgendered people. For instance, is a "man" covered by medical insurance if genetically that "man" is a XX chromosome? Should men be covered for pregnancy now? Can a "woman" get prostate cancer? I am not even clear if a transgendered "woman" has a prostate. I totally agree with the legislation, though it may not go far enough, but I think that this subject brings up interesting issues of medical treatment, ethics and privacy. I need to think a little more on that. Plus I gotta go to work... more later. Later.
As a sidenote, the "quotes" are not meant as disrespect, but to illustrate that I am ignorant as to how to address these individuals.
While I've never heard of a case of a woman getting prostate cancer, I have heard of several instanced of a man getting ovarian cancer. In the first case I heard of, the man ultimately died because his insurance company which had no idea he was f to m refused to cover him. So not only could he not afford treatment of any kind really, but he had to pay out of pocket for what little hospital help he could get (because the hospitals weren't being very helpful either).
the thing that gets me about this, is that it had to be sought out. this man has a wife. and while he couldn't impregnate her, they chose to get artificial insemination for him instead of her. i mean, i suppose that makes sense if she couldn't have children and they both really wanted them....but still. i haven't read too much about this because frankly it seriously fucks with my head and i just can't stand a mind fuck right now. but it's a strange world we live in and....well, i'll just leave it at that.
"I suppose that makes sense if she couldn't have children and they both really wanted them... but still" Not really sure where you were going with that Nigh. Not really sure I care. Well, I'll just leave it at that.
Sorry - I re-read that after I posted it and realized it came out a bit more abrasive than it was intended - particularly since the connotation of the statement I was interpreting can be misconstrued across a digital medium.
Basically I take issue with this on multiple levels. I am "a breeder" personally - but I have strong ties to the LGBT community via both friends and family. Things that you don't understand are not always threats, are not always evil, are not always things you should be uncomfortable with. Placing a stigma or restriction of any sort on people who actively seek out a way to have a child of their own because they have the time and love to give to bring another life into this world is just wrong. Particularly when we have a world full of breeders cranking out child after child they neither can nor care to support and raise properly.
However - I DO understand how Reed feels from time to time. There is a certain level of discomfort that comes from interacting with the Transgendered only because you don't know what to say half the time and fear that you will offend. At least that's how I feel. I have several transgendered persons in my life and what I've found is that if you are honestly talking to them they appreciate it. I tend to come right out and say that I don't want to offend them so I just need to know how to refer to them. I've known drag queens who still refer to themselves as "he" and "him" though they clearly walk in a woman's world 90% of the time. Like anyone else they are humans who just want to be treated with some semblance of respect as they walk their chosen path in life. What is more American (or the idea of America and not the travesty it has become) than that?
Apologies Nigh - that one line just really struck a nerve.
well, take it however you feel the need to take it. it just seems that logically a couple would choose the mother based on who could most easily give birth to the child. these circumstances are counter-intuitive. and that's what's so frickin' weird about it.
technically i'm a breeder, although i don't plan to for various reasons. one of which is that i'm too selfish to raise a child the way i think a child should be raised. and i wish more americans felt the same way i do, because ignoring a child because they're inconvenient to your leisure time is not an excuse...and i've seen it happen a lot. i made this decision when i was 15 because of how often i've seen it.
maybe when you see a statement that could be merely a misunderstanding you should ask questions rather than immediately lunging toward the jugular. ...especially when you have no social context to base your reaction off of.
"maybe when you see a statement that could be merely a misunderstanding you should ask questions rather than immediately lunging toward the jugular. ...especially when you have no social context to base your reaction off of."
Thus the immediate recant and adjustment and, please note, APOLOGY from me in the following response. I realized that I was wrong to over-react and immediately correct that and apologized for my actions.
From someone who has issues mediating my own responses so that they don't sound more attack than discussion - a word of advice. When doling out "helpful" advice to persons about what they should and shouldn't do to get their point across in a non-aggressive manner, it's best not to be on the attack in your own statement. I over-reacted, I admitted this, and I apologized. That is all I can do.
Moving back to the topic at hand - I totally understand your decision not to have children. I made a similar one around the same age as you for very similar reasons. My mother works for the Early Head Start/First Steps program here in SC. The families she works with often consist of "parents" who are horrifically neglectful to their children. Not only that, I had tons of friends throughout school who were completely ignored by their parents - it was almost as if they didn't exist. I found that to be upsetting and unacceptable. For those reasons I decided I would never have a child unless I could give them 100% of everything they needed. I don't want to be "that" parent who is never there for their child and ends up with a stranger 20 years down the road not understanding why or how it happened.
While I agree it is counter-intuitive for the "man" of the relationship to give birth to a child - I think that in this instance the woman simply could not - and as the couple wanted children they went with the solution that was right for them. Sure they could have had a surrogate or even adopted. Both of those would have been suitable and perhaps more logical options to build their family off of. But they chose to have the "man" carry the child because that was right for them - and just because I don't necessarily understand it doesn't mean that it is wrong.
I wasn't saying it was wrong. Just weird. I believe that was my original statement.
I don't want people having an opinion about what goes on in my uterus, why should I judge what people choose to do with theirs?
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